but we have a generation of young people who are throwing a lot of stuff out there on facebook and linkedin and everything else without the kinds of concerns about privacy that my generation grew up with. so when we look ahead, it is not that we don't want to protect vital information, but the whole idea of -- basically americans like government when their security is threatened. they don't like government when their privacy is threatened or when their communications are threatened. going forward, that's an interesting thing to think about. culturally we may be evolving into a society or a world where a lot of people don't particularly care if you are tromping about in their cyberspace. >> let me see, i should note that a government executive has just published a special issue on cyber-security, and our terrific technology web site has a lot of other information in addition to what was public -- published in print on that topic. that is nextgov.com. i think we have run out of time, but we have covered some interesting territory i think. why don't we give john and the others a round of appla